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322 comments on “Subscription Website

  1. rotrot
    December 15, 2012

    Below are links to the NDX trend trader (intermediate term), NDX swing trader (shorter term), and NASI…NDX trend trader and NASI will be posted every weekend or earlier if a change in trend is signaled…NDX swing trader is susceptible to whipsaws so postings of that chart will be discretionary…note the current state of the indicators on each of the charts…best of luck to Anthony, ZigZag, and Platy with their new endeavor…good luck to all with your trading…

    http://tinyurl.com/cd5fyab

    http://tinyurl.com/d45832w

    http://tinyurl.com/dy4avmz

  2. Anthony
    December 7, 2012

    New post on the way. 🙂

  3. James
    December 7, 2012

    Another one of those analogs. For entertainment only, perhaps.

    http://tinyurl.com/avu3kvw

    • ZigZag
      December 7, 2012

      James,

      Be careful..Zeroedge will make your head explode. I can’t decide who’s worse, Zeroedge or EW? It’s a coin toss. 😉

      • simon1080
        December 7, 2012

        agreed .. according to ZH the work and the markets were going to 0 every since the 2009 bottom…
        lol

        • Anthony
          December 7, 2012

          That site stinks.

      • James
        December 8, 2012

        Well, you could find them valuable as contrary indicators, yes? At least their bias is clear. I read all kinds of analysis (mostly to fill the time while watching prices tick up and down). It seems to me nearly everything presented as *analysis* has some slant or bias– whether it’s talking the book, deceiving someone on the other side of the trade, maintaining the ideology of a blog to draw/keep its readers, or just basic psychological disposition. None of it really matters since every trader must ultimately understand and trade himself AS the market. And it ain’t easy! 😉

        • Michael
          December 8, 2012

          Very true James, only a handful are to be taken seriously ! I’ve fallen to some of those analysis even against my own analysis and regretted it 🙂

  4. Anonymous
    December 7, 2012

    I can’t remember if this was 1 of the requests for the paid service but it would be nice to provide specific entry, stops and targets for all trades taken so the membership can decide if they wish to follow or not. It happens to some degree in the trades section but some specifics are usually missing and you have to keep checking versus receiving IM’s, emails to notify us of such trades. tks in advance for considering this request.

    • platypusfoot
      December 8, 2012

      Great suggestion, I will try to add more info to my trades.

  5. James
    December 7, 2012

    Get back to work, central bankers! Xmas looks to be over early this year, as far as economic numbers are concerned. “Inflate or die” meme seems to be gathering momentum. It’s the latest fad in Japan…. coming to Europe….

  6. Anonymous
    December 7, 2012

    Hi Anthony,
    With your recent short trade at 1414…there is no mention of target…do you have a target range in mind? tks in advance.

    • SS76
      December 7, 2012

      Well, looks like he will get stopped out. I think I will be holding my short. I don’t see this getting past 1423, the retracement I expect by the 17th to be close to the 200 DMA around 1385

      • James
        December 7, 2012

        I believe Anthony said “wide stops.”

        • SS76
          December 7, 2012

          On the other thread and under the current positions chart, he has this: 12/07 Short 1414. Stop 1418.

          • James
            December 7, 2012

            I’m thinking shorts are okay under 1427 or so. Suppose we’ll have to suffer choppiness and stop-running until the Fed meets, Japan votes, etc. JPY may take the place of EUR and AUD as the favorite of the risk-on and carry trade. AUD is way overvalued and Europe/Germany sure could use the help from a lower EUR. Fiscal cliff, year-end selling is the other issue. The current S&P chart may be setting up to be an analog of the July-August 2011 pattern with a waterfall coming up next.

    • SS76
      December 7, 2012

      and I think this market will sell off if not today, then Monday, is because of the thought that the FED will end QE3 with this good jobs report….

      • Michael
        December 7, 2012

        SS, i dont think we’re selling off today, i’m targeting 1432

        • karen1650
          December 7, 2012

          Hourly reversal candles are usually not a good indicator of a rally to higher highs….

      • James
        December 7, 2012

        QE3 is open-ended and ‘infinite’–QE4 is in the works. The folly will continue because they only know *double-down.*

  7. Michael
    December 7, 2012

    NFP should end this standstill today, breakout or breakdown ?

    • beetlejuice
      December 7, 2012

      Well with estimates so miserably low was it ever in doubt? What i find hard to believe is how month after nonth figures get revised downward but the market already has already had the kick from the original figures. Revised figures of course have little impact as a market never looks backwards.

  8. karen1650
    December 6, 2012

    Dollar up, treasuries up, Gold up, vix up, market up….??? Somethings up…?? Market is confused….usually a trend change when you see VIX up and market up on same day…?? But anything can happen on the news tomorrow…

    • James
      December 7, 2012

      The ECB started talking negative rates today. The next chapter of currency wars…. Nothing definite yet, but it would mean dollar up and S+P down eventually.

      • Anthony
        December 7, 2012

        They sure want us spending, but there is no inflation remember.

        Maybe someone can let them know that my electricity bill has gone up over 100% in 3 years and fresh salmon costs $32/kg

        Repeat after me: THERE IS NO INFLATION, now your turn…….

        • SS76
          December 7, 2012

          couldn’t agree more Anthony.

        • James
          December 7, 2012

          But of course. Our inflation is somebody else’s asset. 🙂

  9. Peggy Mateer
    December 6, 2012

    best guess for the 1416** or 1422-23** high is Sunday night 12/9 or early Monday 12/10 (before the open). fwiw.

  10. Michael
    December 6, 2012

    Today is setting up to be an inside day

    “An inside day is a candlestick formation that occurs when the entire daily price range for a given security falls within the price range of the previous day. Inside day often refers to all versions of the harami pattern and can be very useful for spotting changes in the direction of a trend.

    An inside day is often used to signal indecision because neither the bulls nor the bears are able to send the price beyond the range of the previous day. If an inside day is found at the end of a prolonged downtrend and is located near a level of support, it can be used to signal a bullish shift in trend. Conversely, an inside day found near the end of a prolonged uptrend may suggest that the rally is getting exhausted and is likely to reverse “

  11. curiousmind
    December 6, 2012

    when you look at the FX market, EUR and GBP both tanked with EUR down almost 100 pips from high, but $A and $C are rallying. Dollar is higher because euro tanked. These bipolar manifestation means the market is extremely unstable, IMO, both gold and silver rallied off their overnight low, which seem to be the pattern of late, sold off in Asia time just to rally in North American time. Just keep our eyes open.

    • Michael
      December 6, 2012

      I agree CM, in a ‘normal’ market, with the big rally in dollar, ES should be tanking by now but so far it’s holding up

    • James
      December 6, 2012

      Tomorrow will be interesting. November employment tax receipts have jumped, but the daily Gallup poll is pointing to a .9% INCREASE in joblessness. Today’s data showed continued fudging and the usual, statistically impossible, one-way revising. The Dax surged toward the 2011 high at 7600 (courtesy of the caught-cooking-the-books-yesterday Deutsche Bank?), while the euro tanked. Greece is in default #2 and serious problems are resurfacing in Italy, ongoing in Spain. The search for good collateral is getting more desperate. S&P pattern seems to need another high to complete– a retest of 1423 or maybe the 1.62 extension at 1427?
      Anecdotal evidence from BBG’s economist Rich Yamarone is that many small businesses are hanging by a thread and fearing they may have to shut the doors after the holiday– in contrast to official statistics and some sentiment surveys.

      • James
        December 6, 2012

        ‘Bad’ news tomorrow can, of course, be blamed on the hurricane. (Sound of algobots being furiously reprogrammed……)– whatever stops need to be run…like today’s yoyo action.

  12. Peggy Mateer
    December 6, 2012

    update – another “triggering” transit is in place until before the close today. It could easier take us to the ** prices. Just found it – sorry I didn’t post it earlier.

  13. karen1650
    December 6, 2012

    Keep your eye on the VIX…setting up a lower high…testing the 50dma on the 15 minute and 200dma on the hourly…a break above is bearish…but resistance may hold…technicals are pointing down (on the VIX)…so I would not be surprised by a big move up….

  14. SS76
    December 6, 2012

    Hmmmm, this seems to support your bearish view Anthony, but this narrowing of higher lows and lower highs with downward sloping 50 DMA and flattening 200 DMA would suggest resolving to teh downside..

    http://marketmontage.com/2012/12/06/desperately-seeking-susan-or-a-higher-high/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+marketmontage%2Fxyz+%28Market+Montage%29

    • SS76
      December 6, 2012

      With this in mind, playing it safe and sold my XIV, shorted at 1407 but tight stop at 1410

      Considering that my correlation chart has today as the high, As Anthony previously had too.

  15. Peggy Mateer
    December 6, 2012

    planetary prices for today (1411 hit “before the open” and now at 1403):
    planetary prices for tomorrow:

    1434**
    1426*
    1423**
    1417-1419**
    1411
    1407
    1403*
    1396-97
    1390*
    1388

    • Anonymous
      December 6, 2012

      Peggy, you should start your own blog, your analysis is great.

  16. Anthony
    December 6, 2012

    People should start looking into longer term short positions, the bearish scenario is becoming more prevalent and any strength should be used to short the market into late December at the very least. Longer term we are up as per ZigZag but for now shorter and mid term trends are still bearish and should resolve in 4-5 weeks. The daily wiggles have proven difficult to ride, so we must be fairly loose with our stops within the context of the larger cycle. Next stop should be around 11/12 Dec which at this stage is likely to be a low, counter trend bounce into 14 Dec weekend then down again into 21 Dec. Best bet pull up a 2hr chart and short the overbought stoch, fairly loose stop. Any weakness at the open in the cash market will likely be bought so wait for the stoch to signal overbought then short stop at 1416.

    I know this may seem inconsistent with ZZ but its important to remember that we have different trading styles. Think ZigZag longer term, myself and Platy short to mid term.

    I believe that ZigZags longer term outlook will play out with new highs into 2013 and as a longer term investor adding on any weakness is likely to bear fruit further down the track.

    • Anonymous
      December 6, 2012

      I appreciate the clarity of this post. thank you.

      • ratandrea
        December 6, 2012

        I concur. Thank you, Anthony.

    • Anonymous
      December 6, 2012

      Oops..forgot to login. that was me testy99

    • Michael
      December 6, 2012

      i think we’re in the window to short now, just my 2 pence worth 6am EST

    • myuniversalworld
      December 6, 2012

      Thanks for this post Anthony. Do you use 5 3 3 on your stochastic settings?

      • Anthony
        December 6, 2012

        Varies with time frame, shorter the time frame the lower the settings. 2/4hr chart 7,3,3

        But there is no magic number.

        • myuniversalworld
          December 6, 2012

          Thanks Anthony

    • SS76
      December 6, 2012

      Very interesting. I have 17 as the low date, so will tread cautiously. I’m also mindful that Peggy calls for the high on Friday or Monday at the 1423 level, while Karen is expecting a large bounce today (larger than yesterday).

      Will sell my xiv if we get near 1417

      • Peggy Mateer
        December 6, 2012

        SS76 – here’s that post (also posted that these levels could be hit this am before the open and would short that – didn’t happen):
        Submitted on 2012/12/04 at December 4, 2012 3:07 | Peggy Mateer.
        “I’m expecting an important high at either 1416-17 or 1422-23 on Friday or Monday. fwiw.”

        • SS76
          December 6, 2012

          Right! that was the one I’m referring to. Forgot about 1416/17 so watching that level also anyways, just to be safe probably take it at 1415 and short. I think it gets there today.

    • apanalis
      December 6, 2012

      As I told you the target for the Dow Jones, 11.700-12.000, rememeber? And after- before a rebound-, we will see if we are in a path to see 9.000 in 2013 or new higs.

      I will not repeat the 4th 17- years cycle for the Industrials from 1932, now from 2000 to 2017 and how is developing and the mid-term structure.

    • karen1650
      December 6, 2012

      Nicely said Anthony….

      Btw, there are indicators of a big move coming either today or tomorrow….

      • SS76
        December 6, 2012

        You mentioned that the big move would be higher….still of that opinion?

        • karen1650
          December 6, 2012

          I didn’t say the big move would be higher, I said there could be a big move today or tomorrow…today the charts say up tomorrow the charts say down…

          Of course the charts are not always correct…even if it has followed it to the “T” all week, it can change…today pointed up, but this price action looks bearish…the only way it seems we will go up, is if there is some kind of news that comes out….otherwise this looks bearish….

        • SS76
          December 6, 2012

          Hmmm, unless I am misunderstanding you…this is what you said yesterday:

          karen1650
          December 5, 2012
          Weekly chart is correct again so far..rally then pullback at the end of the day…tomorrow could open lower than the close today?? DK…but tomorrow looks like another rally…

          and also this:

          karen1650
          December 5, 2012
          The trend has followed my weekly chart thus far…which was sideways to down…today shows a bounce then sell off around close…tomorrow shows a larger bounce then on Friday is hard to tell, but it looks very volatile but down….

          • karen1650
            December 6, 2012

            SS76, like i said, the chart can change…but pay attention to the technicals…VIX is saying a possible move up…but you just have to look at support resistance levels and put your stops in place…

            I NEVER pay attention to ONLY what ZZ, Anthony, Platy or anyone else says on this blog…I pay attention to the TECHNICALS and what they may be saying….

            Looking at the SPX…I can see a higher low on this latest move down…I can see a higher low on the MACD and RSI and other technicals. I can also see a lower high on the VIX and it’s hitting resistance so far…

            I am seeing APPL finding support (may be temporary) but that’s good for the overall market…I see XLF breaking out of a downward resistance line and it also just broke out of a wedge pattern…miners looked to have found support today…treasuries are at a previous resistance with neg d on RSI…TECL another ETF I watch is sitting at 100dma and 200dma on the hourly with pos d….

            There are more things I can mention…but I am seeing a bullish set up here…that can of course change with bad news…but does anyone else have an opinion that we may see a move up tomorrow…??

      • louis
        December 6, 2012

        big move up or down

    • investbb
      December 6, 2012

      Hello Anthony

      can you provide some explanation on the longer term, short term and mid term time frame like, like in term of 1 week or 1 month or 1 year?

      A bit confused when you mention at the start we should be look into longer term short position, then later you mention the longer term from zz is long position. Is it because the first longer term short position is from you, and you explain later that you normally do short and mid term, longer term in this case is your mid term?

      ahaha, I am confused

      Thanks!

      • Anthony
        December 6, 2012

        Investbb.

        I was pretty clear. I said down into Dec 21-24. Beyond that ill be covering after we reach that date.

        Cheers

  17. ZigZag
    December 6, 2012

    Another possible clue for the 14th..

    http://bit.ly/QIwBYA

    Could be the next sweet spot if we’re dropping into this one.

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      That’s weird. I just put 14 potatoes into my soup.

      • ZigZag
        December 6, 2012

        LOL!!!!

        Check this out 🙂
        http://bit.ly/SOsxnP

        • platypusfoot
          December 6, 2012

          Coincidence? I think not! LOL

  18. apanalis
    December 5, 2012

    Anthony & ZIg Zag, are you so kind to answer a question: after these days of dec12/ Jan13, with sideways or dropping from next dates, when consider you a relevant bottom, until march13? As you know, my target for the Dow Jones is 11.700-12.000.

    Thanks

  19. Peggy Mateer
    December 5, 2012

    planetary price update… following are important planetary prices for tomorrow 12/6 before the open:
    1434**
    1426*
    1423**
    1417-1419**

    If price hits these a few hours before the open, I’m going to go short. fwiw. It’s just one opinion and not a trading recommendation.

    • Peggy Mateer
      December 5, 2012

      I mean if price hits any of these important resistance prices.

      • simon1080
        December 5, 2012

        Hello,

        what if prices go down? before the open?
        What are the support numbers..

        Do you think we go up to the open I take it?

        • Peggy Mateer
          December 5, 2012

          planetary prices for tomorrow:

          1434**
          1426*
          1423**
          1417-1419**
          1411
          1407
          1403*
          1396-97
          1390*
          1388

          • Peggy Mateer
            December 5, 2012

            best guess is that the high is in before the open – fwiw.

            • aiihotline
              December 5, 2012

              Peggy,
              Just wondering why you want to short this rally, thought over SPX cash 1416 is the minor 3rd wave up. Could you explain if it is ok to you. Hanks!

              • Peggy Mateer
                December 5, 2012

                I wish I could reconcile ew and what I do… alas, I’m not an ew expert. The double ** means serious resistance and there is an important “triggering” aspect before the open tomorrow so I’m going with that. Hope that helps.

                • aiihotline
                  December 5, 2012

                  Sure. Thanks! I also looked at ZZ’s correlation map and yes, 12/6 high into 12/15 low in general direction. This market is really tough to trade. 🙂

      • SS76
        December 6, 2012

        Didn’t you have time of friday or Monday? Don’t you feel that time is more important than price?

        • Peggy Mateer
          December 6, 2012

          same prices so it’s worth a go to me.

          • Peggy Mateer
            December 6, 2012

            es would have to hit those specific prices before the open… also thinking this is a topping process and we could have a double top or secondary high Fri/Mon.

            • SS76
              December 6, 2012

              THanks for your insight!

            • Anthony
              December 6, 2012

              I agree

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Hi Peggy

      Im with you on that short.

  20. ZigZag
    December 5, 2012

    Mark your calendars. Small cap season normally begins mid December and lasts until May.

    http://bit.ly/R8IV5Y

    Is there something else that supposed to hit mid December too? Hmmm 🙂

    • simon1080
      December 5, 2012

      are you saying we go down to mid dec?

      • investbb
        December 5, 2012

        Hi ZZ

        Have the same question as Simon, there seem to have a small space between now and mid dec, Does it mean we go down till then and then blast off?

        Thanks!

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          Hi Guys,

          No, we could do anything until then and it’s only seven trading days away. The low on the correlation is the 15th.

  21. SS76
    December 5, 2012

    I’ve read on here that Anthony, Platy and ZZ should speak as one voice to their subscribers, and I couldn’t disagree more. 100pierre said: platy is” short term”, anthony is “medium term” and zz “long term”, and that is the best way to look at them. Also, Platy brings really unique view with astro stuff that can be very useful, but mostly goes over my head. His GMars72 though is valuable at predicting bottom turns. You’ll notice Anthony tries to call turns on a short term basis, which is extremely difficult and although he’s had some that were wrong, agree with others that the archives will prove he’s right more often than not, and practices great money management. ZZ is all big picture, and his style is perhaps best for most working people. So if you take all this into consideration, this offers you a bit of everything.

  22. karen1650
    December 5, 2012

    Weekly chart is correct again so far..rally then pullback at the end of the day…tomorrow could open lower than the close today?? DK…but tomorrow looks like another rally…

    • SS76
      December 5, 2012

      I am in XIV (inverse VIX) so I contemplated your post since last time it saved me a ton of money, but felt holding XIV was safer since its trading some VIX Dec contracts and more VIX Jan contracts (which is at 17.50 VIX). Glad I did since it closed near the highs of the day in after hours as VIX futures trade till 4:15.

      Peggy has a high pegged for the 7th/10th of 1423 or so (I’ll bail at the 1418 retest) and switch short there., Likely holding short until the 17th/18th and switching long at that point as the correlation chart I posted below suggests. Of course, reading the good info on this site does give me pause and I could change my mind, but trying to develop my own strategies while still considering the value all of you provide.

  23. Al
    December 5, 2012

    Peggy, great calls on ES and SPX. I know you are looking for highs this week or next but do you do any work for NDX? It looks weak today and is usually the leader. Also, I remember you called for 1330s in Spx and we got spx1343 lows and bounced big in November. Can you tell us how you got close to that number and why you said it was an important number for you. Thanks. So far this site has been pretty amazing I must say so I will probably be subscibing. Guess quarterly is the best deal. Is the pricing gonna change or will it stay the same for a while? Are all the calls you guys are gonna make going to go to my email address or just on this site? Is there going to be stops in place as well?

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Hi AI

      Speaking to the developer regarding notifications, security is the main issue for when someone is a subscriber and the leaves the site. Will keep you posted.

      Pricing will remain UNCHANGED, it took 3 months to work out current options i dont think we want to go through all of that again.

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Peggy does great work. 🙂

    • Peggy Mateer
      December 5, 2012

      hi Al. The prices are for any contract. I find that the most actively traded contracts (usually es or compx) are most closely in sync with the planetary prices. I actually called for 1340 on the mid November low – I think I was calling it that day (11/16). That was the es low. Nope, can’t say why. 🙂

    • Peggy Mateer
      December 5, 2012

      also re your question about ndx – I think compx might be the better contract in terms of being in sync with planetary prices. yes, I do track planetary prices for compx but it’s time intensive to do more contracts and post them. I did post compx for a while and aapl but it got to be too time consuming.

  24. karen1650
    December 5, 2012

    I agree with ZZ, daytrading is not for everyone…I for one am not good at it…I try to trade the swings…

    You have to figure out what you are good at, and what you are not good at.

    My charts say that if we are to see a high on the 6/7th and start to head down on Friday and do not continue up…I could see a low around the 12th or 14th, but we will have to see where the pullback starts…the low could be extended into the 17/18…

    The trend is up people…so going against the trend is difficult…stay with the trend until it changes….

    We could end up having a sideways correction where you see little downside…??? be prepared for anything…

    There is an FOMC meeting 11-12th…may affect the markets…

  25. Umar Bhatti (@kamukak)
    December 5, 2012

    Its a great site and I will be subscribing to your services. Do need to mention one thing that your service should have one voice. Right now your material is all over the web page and a bit confusing, for example ZZ is calling higher till January and Anthony is talking about major top around 6. and platy’s info is just goes above my head LOL.

    • 100pierre
      December 5, 2012

      just my opinion, the way i interpret it, is platy is” short term”, anthony is “medium term” and zz “long term” and i agree they are great, with all the other contributors on this site.

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Hi Umar

      thanks for the feedback. ZigZag and i are different in our trading styles, i think we will be up from these levels in 2013, which is what ZigZag is looking at. Within that larger cycle im looking at the smaller stuff that says we could be down until January. Its a strong cycle so im not going to discount it.

  26. Michael
    December 5, 2012

    On a positive note, thanks to Peggy, I’m up 120 ES points from her 1396 level, thanks Peggy! You are the oracle indeed 🙂

    • simon1080
      December 5, 2012

      Thats awsome .. just curious how do you gain 120 es points from 1396 to 1312?

      Curious minds wonder

      • Michael
        December 5, 2012

        haha 12 ES points, waited for it to hit support and got onboard when it crossed 1400

    • Peggy Mateer
      December 5, 2012

      1396* 🙂

  27. SS76
    December 5, 2012

    Anthony/Platy. According to the Miners roadmap, it should head up from here either today or tomorrow. Do you still see that is the most likely scenario? I’m looking at GDX and as Beetlejuice said, it is looking like its going to break to the downside. Comments/thoughts?

    • platypusfoot
      December 5, 2012

      A double bottom off the 61.8% retracement – if I weren’t already in this is where I’d be looking to enter. With a stop this time LOL

    • SS76
      December 5, 2012

      Thanks Platy. The 61.8% retracement is for GDX or NUGT?

      • platypusfoot
        December 5, 2012

        GDX

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Hi SS76

      I will be addressing a bearish scenario this weekend. The roadmap was created on the basis of a bullish cycle being the most dominant, we could have a bearish cycle in play as with equities that will take metals down with it. I’ll let you know once its built.

      • SS76
        December 5, 2012

        Thanks much Anthony. Curveballs everywhere and thats what makes this market so difficult. With what I am seeing in the miners, it looks like 40 is definitely the next stop perhaps providing a significant trade opportunity for NUGT, but still afraid to buy DUST now (Should have held it!).

        • Anthony
          December 5, 2012

          Agree certainly a few curve calls lately with the CIT dates. NUGT medium and short term trends are still down so for me more downside.

  28. curiousmind
    December 5, 2012

    Hard to imagine the dow up over 100 points with AAPL down over 4%. So is today a low or going to be a high?? Will be interesting the next few days

  29. James
    December 5, 2012

    “Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position, but certainty is an absurd one.” -Voltaire

  30. apanalis
    December 5, 2012

    platy, hello, and thanks. Look what is doing NDX100, looking forward mid dec12.

  31. Anil V
    December 5, 2012

    Anthony,

    By the way you were stopped out recently. So I am surprised why would somebody subscribe to your service. I visited this blog because thought it was open forum. My suggestion is not to give wrong advice and make money.

    Anil

    • James
      December 5, 2012

      Trading is about when to risk and then how to manage the risk. ‘Time to put away the childish things’.,,,as the saying goes.

    • Michael
      December 5, 2012

      Anil, If you think it’s always wrong advice, why have you come back to the blog ?

    • Anonymous
      December 5, 2012

      was a 30 point stop on the ES EMINI!!! thats crazy

      most are zigzag follwers…when you trade against zigzag you most likely lose!!!

      • Michael
        December 5, 2012

        Anon, zigzag traded long in November with a 600 pt stop ! At the end of the day, individuals trade with what they are comfortable with. You’ve got to know what type of trader you and adjust accordingly

    • ZigZag
      December 5, 2012

      Anil,

      You forgot to mention all of his prior correct calls! Give me a break! Perhaps you could enlighten us to where the market is going next?

      My suggestion is to think before you post.

      • Witold (@delubicz)
        December 5, 2012

        You are in the right, Anthony in most of cases is trading with stops,that’s the life of traders using SL,but I am follower of Anthony’s blog and I know,that he had so much correct calls. Since you and Platy working together with him,we could compare his calls with your forecasts(s&p),and Platy’s(metals,nasdaq,and s&p too). I like very much your method of trading( mostly long time without stops!) exactly this way I’m trading since more then 10 years.
        best regards

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          Hi Witold,

          Good to hear that your style is similar to mine. I tried day trading once a longtime ago and soon realized I was one of those 95% that fail at it.

          Doing my taxes for that year was not fun at all. lol

      • Anonymous
        December 5, 2012

        Mad, Sad and Glad. Right now many will be in the Mad phase which is ok…no point in being defensive, they should be allowed to vent it’s only day 4 since the announcement…soon they’ll move slowly into acceptance and be in the Sad phase (some of us may already be there)…I’m just hoping we’ll all be in the glad phase, where even for those that don’t subscribe to CIT there will be “something” for everyone whether you stay or move on.

        The grass roots of this website was to create an open respectful environment…I’m not seeing that when I see people calling names or getting defensive. When things change good or bad you’re bound to get a reaction, I think enough explanation has been provided as to why the decision is so, so no point in defending or falling prey to people’s thoughts and letting this snowball.

        Maybe we do need to have a new thread where this was is left for venting it’s becoming to muddled and confusing.

        ~SBW

        • platypusfoot
          December 5, 2012

          Thanks for the constructive thoughts SBW.

        • Anthony
          December 5, 2012

          Well said SBW, the voice of reason.

    • karen1650
      December 5, 2012

      There are a lot of people whining about the inevitable…it’s going subscription…let it go and put your big boy panties on…this game will either make you tougher and smarter, or it will make you weaker so that you will quit…figure out which one you will be…mistakes are a learning opportunity…if you don’t learn, you will be wiped out…end of story…

      If you had followed Anthony’s roadmap you would have gotten long around the 12th time frame and made about 70 spx points…you have to do your own technical analysis in addition to following others work…so don’t be lazy and learn on your own, otherwise you will get slaughtered…now let’s get back to work…

      Anthony, ZZ, it’s still possible we could still see a high on the 6th….how are you guys feeling about a possible low around the 12th-14th? ZZ’s correlation shows a low on 15th…

      The negative divergences have to play themselves out eventually…..

      Everyone on here that is not paying attention to the technicals are being lazy, lazy, lazy…you have to learn if you want to stay in the game…otherwise…just cut your losses and get out…

      • IHS
        December 5, 2012

        Hello Karen? Is that what you see in your charts?

      • ZigZag
        December 5, 2012

        Karen are you seeing a low around 12-14th? I’m trying to find the best area to add long in anticipation of the santa claus rally. Sometime close to the correlation low on the 15th should be a good area for me to add.

        The blue T is hitting on the 6th http://bit.ly/WIfdkU and I have a few other things hitting on the 12-14. There’s a short term cycle that has been hitting these lows since the November low. I’l post it later today..The next date on that one is Dec 18-19.

      • Anonymous
        December 5, 2012

        Hi Karen I think it’s just getting a bit confusing on this thread cause it’s got the technicals mixed in with the emotions lol

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          Technicals mixed in with the emotions LOL!

          We should call it Techniotions! 🙂

      • Anthony
        December 5, 2012

        Hi Karen

        yes im looking at this 6th for a high still then down as you say into 11/12.

    • SS76
      December 5, 2012

      Anil, really? Not everyone is right 100% of the time, but your characterization is downright childish.

  32. beetlejuice
    December 5, 2012

    If a index or security breaks below its 200dma only to rebound and test its 50dma above and then fail to break it, but then go on to decline below its 200dma again, that can be considered extremely bearish.

  33. karen1650
    December 5, 2012

    The trend has followed my weekly chart thus far…which was sideways to down…today shows a bounce then sell off around close…tomorrow shows a larger bounce then on Friday is hard to tell, but it looks very volatile but down….

    • Michael
      December 5, 2012

      I guess the non farm payroll on Friiday will add to volatility. Thanks Karen

  34. Stockboom
    December 5, 2012

    Anthony

    I agree with you and thought about that after recommending free trial…

    I guess its up to individual to make decision…for me its simple..getting view of so many champions is dream!

    I followed ZZ for a long time and you guys are with him is jackpot!

    GANNAN; I guess you comparing apple and oranges; difference between service and Goods! but I can see rational of not providing free trial…

    Cheers

  35. Peggy Mateer
    December 5, 2012

    Planetary prices for today:

    1423**
    1419**
    1416.5
    1411
    1407
    1403*
    1396*
    1393*
    1390

  36. Anthony
    December 5, 2012

    The short term trend remains up but it is rolling over and getting close. The longer term trend remains down. The dollar is also signalling that we are close to a major high in equities in my opinion.

    • apanalis
      December 5, 2012

      Agai, Anhony, I´n not that Anonymus, i´m not so fool. Well, what is the meaning of long term for you? The trend you say remains down. You know my target dow 11.700-12.000.

      Thanks

    • gannman
      December 5, 2012

      aapl down 17 bucks as of now ………………watch out qqq and aapl death cross approaching ..cross over 50dma 200 dma….just my 2 cents

  37. Gannman
    December 5, 2012

    Sb ..will go to the local steakhouse for lunch today and ask for a sample tbone and a glass of wine. If they do it ….Anthony should listen to you if not …….$$$

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Thats golden 🙂

    • Michael
      December 5, 2012

      loving the humour here today lol

  38. beetlejuice
    December 5, 2012

    Just my two cents here. I think we need to look to he currency msrkets for the direction and the reason i feel that is because the USD and AUD are all at crucial price points.
    The AUD is forming a large elongated triangle. A break above or below thispattern will signal the next long term move
    As I posted the other week, I dont like the weekly chart of copper or GDX with the latter in particular signalling a major market sell off IMO

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$XAD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p18082202264

  39. Stockboom
    December 5, 2012

    Anthony, ZZ, Platy

    Have you consider providing 15 days free trial for new subscribers? I think most of the subscription site, you will see this is common…this way people who have doubts about how this new improved site work out for them can have opportunity to feel and experience.

    I think this is very simple and fair expectation from anyone who is going to subscribe.

    Cheers

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      SB

      If they dont know by now how this works, theyll never know. Maybe a trial in the future, not at this stage.

      So someone would sign up for a trial and get a years worth of roadmaps!!!! Not happening. 1 month minimum due to the forecasting nature of the site and material herein. Most other sites are lookback……thats the easy part.

      • stockboom
        December 5, 2012

        Anthony

        I agree with you and thought about that after recommending free trial…

        I guess its up to individual to make decision…for me its simple..getting view of so many champions is dream!

        I followed ZZ for a long time and you guys are with him is jakepot!

        Cheers

  40. Gannman
    December 5, 2012

    Since its Wednesday and we have two more trading days …. Pay attention to aapl as I pointed out yesterday aapl failure to move above the 200 Dma will result in a death cross and a huge sell off aapl must close at or above 573.93 on the weekly chart. If it fails to do so it indicates the strength of the market in that direction Must stay at or above these level on the following charts. Daily …576.59. Weekly …..583.93. Monthly …..564.68..,. Just my 2 cents Cheers. Texas ..,,,premarket. Aapl down hmmmm

  41. Klaas
    December 5, 2012

    Thanks Mike , but i trade CFD with IGMarkets . I had a 12K profit on it mostly made with my own system and tips from ZigZag .I made the decision that i follow ZigZag for 100% because i made so much money this year . So i decided that i take a big position ( too big !!) and followed him . Then i was stopped out wit a loss of 30 points . I paniced and switched to Anthony . And again i lost almost 30 points . Thats too much !!!

    • Mike
      December 5, 2012

      Someone told me once that you do not grow your trading account but growth your total wealth. Let’s say your total wealth is 100K and you are willing to put 10% of that into trading, then once you reach a certain amount of profits, you wire out the profit and reset your account. This way you wont be tempted to over trade or trade a bigger position than your original trading position and plan. I think this is sensible in that the profits you made in your trading account should be protected away from trading and put into something the will increase your wealth, paying off debts.

      • Anthony
        December 5, 2012
      • Klaas
        December 5, 2012

        Mike …this year i did 28 trades and almost every trade was a good trade with profit .I was like Supertraderman 🙂 .Everyone was telling me that i must take the profits and stop …but i had learned from the past and when you are feeling good and your trading is going ok you can keep trading . Then i made a decision to take a profit to buy a few nice things for myself . Exact on that day i made my first loss and after that every trade i made was a loss ….So there you have the proof that its in your head . !!! Physical emotions are sooooo difficult for me .

  42. Klaas
    December 5, 2012

    ok .i give it one more chance .I lost a lot when i followed ZigZag and get long to quick and was stopped out at the bottom with that short and then switched to Anthony and was stopped out with that last short at 1417 .So three strikes and i am out . When i make 10 points this month with ZigZag or Anthony i take a subscribsion …when not i stop and take a long holiday 🙂 . I have no position now so i hope we see a high today or tommorow and make my 10 points .one more thing …the big mistake i made was to read too much opinions here . When there where not many people in here things where more easy for me . Now we have too much different opinions and on top of that my own opinion. Good luck all !

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      We have out fingers and toes crossed for you Klaas 🙂

    • Mike
      December 5, 2012

      Klaas,

      Sound like you are over trading or over leverage for your position. For example if you are trading 1 contract of /es, most pros recommend that you have at least 15K USD in your account. Of course the initial and maintenance margins are much lower. If you have less than that I think you should consider trading the actual stock or index.

  43. ZigZag
    December 5, 2012

    Those Idiotic ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Countdown Clocks? All Wrong.

    http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/12/all-those-idiotic-fiscal-cliff-clocks-are-wrong/

  44. SS76
    December 5, 2012

    Correlation with 1967 is 90%. Looks like 5/6 will be the high, 16/17 the low, and back up till the end of the year.

    http://www.mrci.com/special/dspi67.php

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Maybe SS76, there are other bearish cycles in play, but thanks for posting.

    • platypusfoot
      December 5, 2012

      This is really interesting SS76, thanks!

    • ZigZag
      December 5, 2012

      Hi SS76, it’s either the 6th or could extend to the 11th. I believe Karen had a high hitting around the 11th.

      http://bit.ly/WIfdkU

      • SS76
        December 5, 2012

        Ya, the movements are certainly not perfect (beginning of the year appeared inverted).

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          You have to find symmetry, or some other indicators that agree with the dates. It helps bring up the odds quite a bit most times 🙂

          • SS76
            December 5, 2012

            Thanks ZZ, good advice.

      • SS76
        December 5, 2012

        Peggy has 7/10 for the high…

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          Oh, that’s right. Well, I won’t argue with what the girls are saying 😉
          There was a study I read a while back that said women make better traders.

    • Anonymous
      December 6, 2012

      Hi SS do you recall who originally posted this and under what thread.

      Thx,
      SBW

      • Anthony
        December 6, 2012

        Subscription Website
        Submitted on 2012/12/04 at December 4, 2012 3:07 | In reply to Peggy Mateer.
        “I’m expecting an important high at either 1416-17 or 1422-23 on Friday or Monday. fwiw.”

        • Anonymous
          December 6, 2012

          Hi Anthony, can we go to the new site and comment there instead? or not till 21st

          SBW

          • Anthony
            December 6, 2012

            Not until 21st SBW

        • Anonymous
          December 6, 2012

          somethings not right here my comments are being posted in the wrong places?

          sbw

      • Anonymous
        December 6, 2012

        nevermind i found it!

  45. Anonymous
    December 5, 2012

    Hello please is it OK if I put up a web site that I will be at so that others that do not sign up can go to as they have charts and share there work?.
    It is very basic site,but still a place to share basic information.

    • Anthony
      December 5, 2012

      Apanalis – your beard is coming unstuck and the Spanish accent is unmistakable.

      Its easier if you just sign up rather than keep adopting these disguises.

      • Michael
        December 5, 2012

        Hahaha ! Busted lol

      • apanalis
        December 5, 2012

        I´m not that Anonymus, i´m Spanish-vasq, but not so foolish

        • Anonymous
          December 6, 2012

          He not that Anonymus, i´m not a fool.

  46. investbb
    December 4, 2012

    Hi Guys

    Will be joining. one suggestion, would it be ok if you guys can set it up as an option so for those that joins always gets emailed with all the follow comments, new posts, etc by default.

    Right now I have to check the box for notify me of follow-up comments via email and notify me of new posts via email. very ignoring sometimes if i forgot to check it and missed out on the comments updates.

    Thanks!

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Hi investbb

      We have that option because not everyone wants follow up comments. We could make it a default option though, ill speak to the developers.

  47. Anthony
    December 4, 2012

    Looking at my cycle charts this morning and it looks like we are following the bearish scenario https://changeintrend.wordpress.com/sp500-roadmap/, so in the bullish case the low that i was expecting at the close on the 3rd turned out to be the high. Originally i expected us to rise into 5/6th. It now looks like the 3rd was the high and the 5/6th will be the low. If you invert ZigZags roadmap you can see that there is a minor inversion taking place which means that after 5/6 low there will be a 11/12 high. i think also Gannman alluded to this in his post

    http://www.screencast.com/users/gannman/folders/Default/media/1ed24331-57d1-47cd-824d-51a8ac9a4798

    Longer term it also means that the trend looks like it is down if indeed the ZigZag correlation has inverted and the bearish scenario is playing out.

    Edit: This market is throwing a few curve ball as futures are now up 5/6 should be a CIT should be a CIT regardless. Just sitting back until then.

    • gannman
      December 4, 2012

      obama to speak on bloomberg tonight…..looks like its going to be a gap down ….just my 2 cents…here’s something for aapl…………….http://www.screencast.com/users/gannman/folders/Default/media/fa5e8d7f-0b06-4ce3-88b6-bf95ad5707fe

      • SS76
        December 5, 2012

        GM, I have been playing with freestockcharts.com and using the 2 hr chart, macd histogram, and rsi, I think it will be useful going forward. Do you have anything else when looking at charts that help you in your trading? Thanks in advance.

      • SS76
        December 5, 2012

        Correlation with 1967 is 90%. Looks like 5/6 will be the high, 16/17 the low, and back up till the end of the year.

        http://www.mrci.com/special/dspi67.php

  48. curiousmind
    December 4, 2012

    I was a little shocked to see this site become subscription site, since I remember not long ago the trio was saying that they won’t turn this site into subscription site. I really appreciate the amount of expertise and work you guys put in to maintaining and updating this site. So I am still contemplating what to do…However, if this become a paid site, I believe it will need lots of make-over. In terms of the format the info are presented and also the comments section. As for now, things can get confusing, with sometimes conflicting views from the trio and sometimes the CIT dates can switch from an expected low to high or vice versa…As a new follower of CIT, I find it very confusing, mainly due to my lack of knowledge, so I become unsure how much I can benefit from what I read here once the site becomes a paid site. Sometimes I find myself reading and enjoying the clarity of some other posters work, e.g. Karen, Peggy, Gannman, it will be sad not to be able to read their comments once this site turn private.

    By no means, I mean any disrespect to the trio, it is more my own inadequacy in applying CIT dates to my trading that is making me wonder whether paying $50/month will help…I will be willing to give it a try if there is some kind of special entrance price for ppl like me, or for people who have been with this site before it turns into a paid site, or even for ppl who introduce others to this site (which I have)…by no mean I am putting a certain monetary value on your work and analysis,they are invaluable please do not be offended, but view it more as a marketing strategy to attract more subscriber for the long run

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Curious

      thanks for the feedback. We cant please everyone unfortunately, were lucky that the likes of Gannman, Karen, Rotrot and Peggy have said that they are signing up which is great for us.

      In relation to conflicting views, it happens and will continue to happen as long as we are individuals and have different experience/knowledge. Its great when we all see the same thing but im not going to change an opinion because its the same as someone elses.

      If you choose not to signup good luck with your endeavours and thanks for your input whilst you were here.

    • platypusfoot
      December 5, 2012

      Thanks for the feedback CM. Regarding when we decided not to go paid, it was after many people volunteered to make donations so Anthony made a good faith effort to accept donations in lieu of subscription costs. We felt this would be more fair since people could donate how much or little they could afford or what they felt our work was worth, but very few actually stepped up.

  49. 1inbluemoon
    December 4, 2012

    Sorry folks, i wont be subscribing either. 50$ is a big chunk for a letter (consider that average trader already has several subscriptions) so it all adds up.

    I will miss Zig’s T’s but will continue Terry Laundry’s work on my own. Perhaps it is good time to split apart.

    Good luck!

    p.s. Zig, btw nice hit on gold today exactly into the T from february 2011 if you draw one!

    • SS76
      December 4, 2012

      It’s more than just a letter, let’s not diminish the content/value of what these 3 bring because we may not agree on price.

      • 1inbluemoon
        December 4, 2012

        SS76, its not just the money. i just have not seen a decent subscription site of this type yet. Free information exchange is a beautiful thing. By isolating you will limit your audience to “consumers” mostly and there will be very little constructive feedback IMO. Anyway, its just my 2 cents.

        • Anthony
          December 4, 2012

          ” i just have not seen a decent subscription site of this type yet ”

          That’s the point.

          • SS76
            December 5, 2012

            I’m sure it will be more than decent.

    • ZigZag
      December 4, 2012

      I’ll go check out the T, thanks 1inbluemoon.

      • 1inbluemoon
        December 4, 2012

        Zig, dont you have your own blog? Closing the doors will limit information exchange, there are posters that will simply disappear.

        • ZigZag
          December 5, 2012

          Hi 1inbluemoon,

          Yes, but I now have a wonderful partnership here with Anthony and Platy and I will only post here from now on. I don’t think of it as closing doors, I look at it as a better experience for all. It’s the same reason why Terry eventually went subscription.

          • Anthony
            December 5, 2012

            And Platy and I know a hit man!!!!!!!

            • ZigZag
              December 5, 2012

              Yeah, that too LOL!

  50. Peggy Mateer
    December 4, 2012

    planetary prices for today:

    1419-20*
    1410*
    1407
    1403*
    1396-97
    1393**

    • Peggy Mateer
      December 4, 2012

      I’m expecting an important high at either 1416-17 or 1422-23 on Friday or Monday. fwiw.

      • ratandrea
        December 4, 2012

        Thnx Peggy. You do fantastic work.

      • Michael
        December 4, 2012

        the oracle has spoken

        • Peggy Mateer
          December 4, 2012

          hahah. funny! though I will be so happy if I’m right again!

          • IHS
            December 4, 2012

            Hi Peggy, what method do you use to do your forecasts? What books do you recommend about it? Thanks in advance!

            • Peggy Mateer
              December 4, 2012

              hi IHS. It’s proprietary. I don’t know anyone else who is doing this so I don’t know what books to recommend. It’s taken me a very very long time to get to this point and I’ve studied just about everything. I do recommend Cowan’s books (especially Pentagonal Time Cycle Theory) – great stuff. I don’t use it to produce these forecasts though.

              • IHS
                December 4, 2012

                Thanks a lot Peggy!

      • SS76
        December 4, 2012

        Why is it important Peggy? What do you see next if that does play out?

        • Peggy Mateer
          December 5, 2012

          It’s important because of a formation during that time. I’ve got a low on 12/18 (have posted this many times) – I’ll try to fine tune it as it approaches.

          • Anthony
            December 5, 2012

            Hi Peggy, i have 17th and 21st for a CIT so both are close.

            • Peggy Mateer
              December 5, 2012

              agree Anthony. There are a few important things happening then.

  51. Stockboom
    December 4, 2012

    Anthony,

    If i remember correctly you were expecting low either 3rd or 4th of December, now I see your post that you are expecting high on 5th and 6th! can you please clarify?

    Thank you

    P.S. ZZ, Platy if Anthony is not available, appericiate if you could clarify on his behalf.

    Thanks

    • platypusfoot
      December 4, 2012

      That’s correct Stockboom.

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      If anything changes ill post it. I said low 3/4 fifth 5/6. Irs very frustrating to keep repeating myself.

      • IHS
        December 4, 2012

        Hey Anthony, how are you? I´m in with your new service. Please let me know what to do. Take care

        • Anthony
          December 4, 2012

          Thsnks IHS instructions are on the link. Subscription links wont be made available until 21 Dec. 🙂

          • IHS
            December 4, 2012

            Congrats man, and good luck on that!!!

  52. SS76
    December 4, 2012

    Thought my idea was a good one maybe?

    Inaugural price if you sign up before Dec 31st, $20/mth for 1 yr, with pricing continuing at $20 until you cancel.
    After Dec 31st, $40/mth for 4 month subscription or flat $50/mth

    This way, you give guys like me a chance 🙂 , reward your current readers some of whom have brought others here, by having a larger member base you increase the chances of growing your subscriber base after the site has gone private, and of course you increase the knowledge brought to the subscriber base.

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      So our work is worth, wait for it, three big mac meals per month. Infact if you are from Boston make that 2 big mac meals and small coke.

      • beetlejuice
        December 4, 2012

        ……or a couple of “dogs eyes” and chips 😉

      • SS76
        December 4, 2012

        Noo, its worth more, sorry if I have offended you. Not my intention. All the best.

      • Michael
        December 4, 2012

        hahaha ! you’ll get more for your money at burger king lol

  53. beetlejuice
    December 4, 2012

    Hey guys you can count me in. BTW gold looks set to break 1700 and that ugly ugly GDX weekly chart has had me somewhat concerned that the markets are going to head much lower.
    Remember back to 08 and how GDX began a precipitous decline just before the broader markets collapsed?
    USD is make or break here too. Also what in hell is keeping the AUD afloat? Talk about defying gravity.

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Good to hear BJ. Check out the miners gold map. Need to update actuals but look where we are now.

      • beetlejuice
        December 4, 2012

        Anthony so you have miners bottoming out here and heading up into month end yeah?

        • Anthony
          December 4, 2012

          Yeah. But use trailing stops.

  54. Andrew
    December 4, 2012

    Good morning Platy, Anthony, Zig-Zag, and Karen

    It has been a concern of mine for quite sometime, that all your market analysis is being posted on this website without any form of monetary compensation!

    This highly specialized astro-analysis could just no no longer be made freely available to the general investing public! As I have cited already, the turning points that Platy has provided in Silver are not to be found anywhere in trading forums. We are reminded that we have been so gifted by Platy’s incredible contribution! Karen noted the importance in a recent posting significant turning points in the markets, and that visitors to this blog should take up the paid membership to capitalise on the anticipated CIT.Thank you Karen.

    As an aside, I wish to mention, that I trade on the Meta4 platform which include the following spot instruments. XAU/USD, XAG/USD US Oil, XPD/USD, XPT/USD, SPX500, US30 and the currencies. I have noted that low risk entry points will be provided for the various trading instruments, where appropriate. May I enquire, the 21st December is the switch over-day to the paid subscription, was this meant to possibly coincide with the basing of the markets, with particular reference to Silver!

    It is my intention to utilise this paid subscription to get long in all the markets closest to the bottom for the long-haul, and enjoy the trend without concerning myself about day to day fluctuations!

    Looking forward to receiving your comments.

    Andrew

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Hi Andrew

      This was to coincide with the Mayan Calendar. We thought it quite fitting.

      Ill pass the baton over to Platy for comments regarding her planetary harmonics. They are unique.

      Best Wishes
      Anthony

  55. myuniversalworld
    December 4, 2012

    Hi Anthony, Zig Zag & Platy, I suppose everyone likes to get things for free and I have enjoyed your site and the great service it has provided. I will also be signing up to your subscription site and I look forward to all of your more in depth analysis. Keep us all up to date on how the layout of the new site will be presented. Will you all continuing to post market updates and road maps until the 21st of December.

    Many thanks

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Sure do MUW.

      We’ll be looking at continuing to enhance the new site, the beta version is here http://change-in-trend.com/

      It will be business as usual upto 21 Dec so were looking for a smooth transition over.

      • myuniversalworld
        December 4, 2012

        Thanks Anthony, just in regards to your recent comments on the S&P road map. Do you and ZZ still see a high into late Dec early Jan after the pullback around the 6th or so?

        • Anthony
          December 4, 2012

          MUW

          Im seeing the potential for a major top around 5/6 Dec from another cycle that i cannot discount, therefore i will likely short and use tighter stops once the short gets underway.

        • ZigZag
          December 4, 2012

          Hi MUW,

          The 6th should be a pause before heading up until late Dec/early January. I do think we will have our santa rally this year.

          • myuniversalworld
            December 4, 2012

            Thanks ZZ, do you also agree with Anthony’s & Platy’s gold roadmap that we seem to be close to a bottom here before a strong move up. I see maybe a little more downside but it could be getting close. Thanks

            • ZigZag
              December 4, 2012

              It looks like it’s getting close. There’s so many bizarre patterns with gold is the reason I don’t follow that much..

  56. Michael
    December 4, 2012

    I really think it’s bang out of order that Anthony,ZZ and Platy are attacked and have to keep justifying their actions. I think it’s enough now, lets move on !

    They’ve made some great calls over past few months, they’ve also said there’ll still be some free stuff, it takes alot of work to research and present analysis, so they deserve something for their efforts.

    So let’s leave the attacking behind and let’s talk about the next CIT ! Who knows, if it the right call, might just pay for a years subscription and Xmas 🙂

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      My sentiments exactly, thank you Michael for your mature input.

      Next CIT 5/6 Dec. Should be a high. Could also confirm our bearish scenario IMHO

    • ZigZag
      December 4, 2012

      Thanks Michael 🙂

  57. stockyard262
    December 4, 2012

    evening folks…read several posters here unhappy with subscription…understandable but also no reason for rants or taunts etc… how quickly you forget what they have already done for you. Some speak of God but the same should remember what HE did bringing the israelites out of Egypt with Moses then to have them wander 40 years because of their idol worshipping self serving atitude could not get them to the promised land.They forgot what was done
    I personally have not made a choice yet…might try 3mos. and see if I can trade for the rest..dunno but people should remember what has been not just what won’t be,

  58. mike
    December 4, 2012

    I will subscribed only if just for ZigZag’s roadmap. It helped me to make better decisions on when to move into the safety of bonds and when to venture out to trade the high beta funds in my 401K. As my 401K, this information will be more and more valuable. I think many here are lloking to trade all the wiggles. I have a bit a mad money for that but the really big money are made trading the trend. As for the sub fee, just cut back on that cup of coffee and bagel each day and you got your sub paid for…Trade the big trend people….play the mad money on the wiggles….Looking forward to the enhanced service…Peace out…

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Hey Mike welcome aboard, sounds like you have a sensible investment plan. Great job.

      • mike
        December 4, 2012

        Thanks Anthony. As an aside, people, if your company have matching contributions for 401K, you need to take advantage of up to the matching level. Even if you just put the same amount of money in as the matching amount and you leave it in a Money market fund, you are guaranteed a 100% gain of your contribution…Take advantage of that fact..

  59. xear (@xear)
    December 4, 2012

    I completely understand you have put a lot of work into the website, organizing it, replying to questions, commenting on trades, discussing CIT dates, etc. so that it becomes hardly worth doing for free.

    In my case, I generally do not read any of the comments or other information and am only interested in Zig Zag’s and Anthony’s roadmaps. This means I only need to check the website once every month or two to see if they line up with my own work.

    Perhaps you might consider making just the roadmaps available separately for $5 a month with no access to any other part of the website, something like that.

    • Anthony
      December 4, 2012

      Xear

      I considered it for about a second then i realised that the roadmaps are worth $$$’s if not $$$$’s.

      $60. Seriously.

      • xear (@xear)
        December 4, 2012

        I guess I thought you had said something like, you were putting so much work into the website that it was becoming too much to do for free.

        Posting ZIgZag’s roadmap once every 3 months entails a lot of work on his part but but not much website work.

        As far as it just being a business and a way to make money … I am sure it is worth $$$$ to many people and I wish you success. In fact as they say, the people that really made fortunes in the gold rushes were those that sold shovels and supplies to the prospectors.

        So anyway, thank you for what has been offered here for free for so long and thank you ZigZag for making your work available for free for all of this time … that has been very generous of you and I have benefited greatly in my own way, although slow person that I am I haven’t actually made any money on it yet.

        • ZigZag
          December 4, 2012

          You are very welcome xear.. Thank you.

  60. gannman
    December 3, 2012

    W D Gann certainly made some exceptional market calls and was able to charge $5,000 for his trading courses. Today, that would be an equivalent of $50,000. There is little doubt among the trading community that W.D. Gann contributed immensely to the trading world and he is a trader who should be studied. Now whats the fuss about $50.00 bucks………….Long hours , immense research , going over data , the list goes on….what you will stand to gain just next year alone is priceless……….My 2 darn cents …….going to have a shot of tequila at the corner bar …cheers

    • apanalis
      December 3, 2012

      600 $ per year, we are talking about a big amount of money. This site is read around the world.

      What a pity!

      This is a real CHANGE IN TREND!

      • Anthony
        December 3, 2012

        Apanalis we know you are upset but please be respectful………

        • apanalis
          December 4, 2012

          Always, respect, Anthony, I´m not upset, the real word is disenchanted, desencantado en español.

          Nobody is able to share their work and their knowlodoge?

          Always is the same. Rememeber what I wrote weeks ago?

          I have written my conclusions of years of hard study in your web, and if I ´d had time I w´tell a lot of things about Cycles of Dow Jones, Commodities, EURUSD, Oil, Gold, big Cycles that moves the market.

          I have written a lot of things in colaboration in Spain as moderator.

          But people prefers money fastly, now and thing goes slowly.

          That´s why I wrote: Change in trend, ironic, sorry if i disturb you.

          Luck.

          • tfinavia
            December 4, 2012

            Hi Apanalis,

            I am wondering if you can answer my question with all your experience in life:

            Can someone retire early by sharing their knowledge?

            Thanks!

            • apanalis
              December 4, 2012

              Yes.

      • apanalis
        December 3, 2012

        Also, It was a nice free site, with believers in God, as I read. 600$ per year, i do not understand.

        • Anthony
          December 3, 2012

          Youve made your point Apanalis, stop carrying on like a pork chop.

          • apanalis
            December 4, 2012

            Pork chop?

  61. SS76
    December 3, 2012

    I think we all need to recognize that a) these 3 and others put in a lot of work and the desire to profit from it is normal. While I wish it remained free, I can’t fault them for taking this direction.

    That said, I agree with others that it would make sense to offer inaugural promotional pricing (say $20/mth for 6 months and providing you continue your subscription, continuing at that price). If you join after the inaugural period or cancel your subscription , pay the increased price already published.

    I know I’ve brought some folks here from other forums I had frequented and have perhaps contributed to the future success of this site from doing so. I also know that building future subcriber base would happen with members like me who would continue to drive traffic to this site via social media.

    Anyways, just a thought.

  62. Anonymous
    December 3, 2012

    Well, that was quick. I thought you three were all successful traders and wanted to maintain this site as an open and vibrant forum, free for all. I believe Anthony was very specific about why he would never charge for this site. Of course things change, usually not quite this quickly. I wish you nothing but success in your new venture, but this move seems like a short term trade for long term loss. Too bad for all.

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Hi Anon

      Sorry you feel this way, you cant please everyone. Good luck on your travels.

  63. crisstoff
    December 3, 2012

    This is the third time I have tried to put a comment here, so I applogise in advance if they suddenly all pop up.

    Karen, Do you have a website?

    As an aside I thought this site may be of interest to some. It shows the corelation to past years to the current – note 1967 http://www.mrci.com/special/index.php Click on the %3 to get the corresponding chart.

    Chris

    • SS76
      December 4, 2012

      Thanks for sharing! That is a great site!

    • Anonymous
      December 6, 2012

      Hi Chris, do you happen to know how we can see next years correlation?

      Thx,
      SBW

  64. apanalis
    December 3, 2012

    Disappointed but not suprised. I wrote some weeks ago that the first step to be a suscription page is, first to be an open website, second charity, and 3rd, SUSCRIPTION.

    As I´m an old-soldier in markets is always the same.

    50$ is a large sum of money.

    I´m a Cycle Analyst and i´ve been sharing my knolodge from a lot years ago. No blogs, no suscriptions.

    I thought, some fresh in this website and I was so confortable.

    I´m sorry but this is not the way.

    The way is share, share is the way, to win, to beat.

    Today is a sad day, palty, Zig Zag and Anthony.

    Markets affers money to everybody everydays.

    No need to trade with the trading.

    Thanks for all. Pained but not suprised.

    • ratandrea
      December 3, 2012

      Anapalis, you have offered WONDERFUL analysis on here. I hope you’re on Stocktwits and if so, please tell me your handle there.

      • apanalis
        December 3, 2012

        ratandrea (spanish name?), I don´t know the page you write, but i´ll look at it. Thanks

        I have been collaborator in a Spanish Market Forum for a lot of years, no money for.

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      Apanalis, I’m sorry you feel that way. In my case I can say that I would probably have cut way back on my posts or stopped entirely if we did not switch to a paid service. The amount of research that goes into this work is huge, and making the work presentable and keeping a public site going nearly doubles the work. This obviously cuts into my home time and to keep my household happy it had to come down to this choice. I have always tried to make my methods and my thinking clear so that anyone interested enough could learn on their own and not need me at all. This is contrary to other sites I know who have similar knowledge but do not explain it, or else make you buy their book.

      • apanalis
        December 3, 2012

        platy, nice girl, I understand, but I do not agree the way.

        In a bunch of weeks we have dreamed with two boys and a girl that wanted to share their knolodge with people around the world in a real nice atmosphere.

        I wrote my conclusions for the DOW cycle, only some notes.

        I read some interesting things here also.

        In Spain we say, to put the honey on the lips.

        After, donations and finally, money. The money is on the markets, every day, every week, every month.

        We need to share our knowlodge with nice people, to contrast, to enrich in the integral way.

        I have been sharing my view of the markets from a lot of years and always is the same.

        Trading with the traders!

        I´ve learned from a lot of people things and they have not need my money, and I have taught every day many things to traders and beginners in Spain, more than I´ve recieved.

        Never money.

        It another way, if you dont´t agee with me: OPEN SITE and SUSCRIBER SITE.

        Or not too expensive SITE.

        50$ per month. Incredible!

        You have all the money waiting for you in the markets every day!

        And you have a site to share knolodge with all the world.

        The way of suscription is the way to definitely close our dream.

        Thanks anyway for all you can share with all of us.

        I suspected this, I wrote some weeks ago, do you remember?

        No Road Maps for 2013, no dates for 2013, no more any charts for january.

        i reapet, this is not the way.

        Thanks for all.

        Antonio Pérez Algás
        Market Analyst and Cycle´s specialyst.

  65. tesko99
    December 3, 2012

    Nice service. Agree with some of the comments to improve the service. ie. agreement amongst the 3 contributors, timely emails with specific trades including symbol, price etc..
    Perhaps offering an initial lower subscription for new service that will be honoured until canceled before returning to regular subscription rate for new users might be a good idea.

    • tesko99
      December 3, 2012

      ie. half off until Dec 31st for new subscribers that will keep the low rate until canceled. Regular rates as of Jan 1st.

  66. Anonymous
    December 3, 2012

    Nice service. Agree with some of the suggestions i have seen to improve the service. ie. better alignment between the 3 contributors, timely notification of trades with specific symbol, price etc…
    Have to think about the subscription. Perhaps having an initial lower kickoff subscription rate that is honoured until they cancel before returning to regular rates for new subscribers may be a good idea to consider.

    • tesko99
      December 3, 2012

      Sorry…i was having problem with my login and did not think my initial comment took.

      tesko99

  67. Andrew
    December 3, 2012

    Please take the time out to review Platy’s analysis covering Silver! This exceptional strategy is not only worth $50 but in fact its weight in gold…….Need one say any more!

    • Witold (@delubicz)
      December 3, 2012

      Friday’s trade worth fast $ 4500 (one contract)!!! Congratulation Platy 🙂

      • platypusfoot
        December 3, 2012

        Thanks Andrew and Witold. 🙂

  68. simon1080
    December 3, 2012

    If people can’t afford $50/month .. They simply have no business to be trading stocks/futures etc Period!!!

    • john
      December 3, 2012

      Kind of harsh.

  69. Anonymous
    December 3, 2012

    Hi there,

    I’m a novice trader, I’ve been watching this site from the sidelines for some time now, and have probably only traded twice based on the info received on this site. Mainly b/c of the difference in opinions which sometimes confuses me and then the type of trades being made…when i see long batch purchases, that unfortunately doesn’t mean much to me unless I know what is being purchased or sold. I’ve tried going back through old posts and that can be quite mind boggling to say the least. I love this site in that it has various analysts and talents in one place and that a lot of the trades are longer holding trades which make it easier for the working folks and those that love to fish in between 😉 . Most likely I will pay however, (withoout repeating) I hope you can really consider some of Stockbooms suggestions and maybe provide more specific detailed trades and suggestions of what symbols/tickers make for better long term and short trades. I hope I didn’t upset anyone with my comments just speaking from the heart : )

    ~SBW

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      We really appreciate the feedback SBW and will do our best to make these suggested improvements.

  70. karen1650
    December 3, 2012

    I know a lot of people will not be able to afford the $50/per month…but if you can see what’s coming up in the charts, you may want to stick around…there are some serious profits to be made soon if you know what the timing is…

    It should more than pay for the subscription…

    • aiihotline
      December 3, 2012

      Amen to Karen’s comments. If someone just follow ZZ’s major turns, should be very profitable.

      • Michael
        December 3, 2012

        Zz uses HUGE stops, so if you can follow his trades then u must be able to afford $50 🙂

        • aiihotline
          December 3, 2012

          🙂 well, follow ZZ in general along with my own indicators as well.
          But calling for June bottom, Oct. top and November bottom are not easy when people were looking lower low in June, higher into election.

          • karen1650
            December 3, 2012

            There will be a big move coming up in 2013…you won’t want to miss it…the first wave will be big…IMHO…

            • crisstoff
              December 3, 2012

              Karen, maybe you should have your own blog??

              As an aside this may be helpful to use for correlation to past years – http://www.mrci.com/special/index.php Click on % to see chart. Note 1967 🙂

              Chris

              • karen1650
                December 4, 2012

                Chris…no I do not have my own blog…but as a member, I will post the information that I have…

                I have thought about it in the past, but I wouldn’t want to go through the process of not only maintaining a website…but also having to deal with so much criticism on a daily basis… 🙂 You have to have very thick skin…

                • crisstoff
                  December 4, 2012

                  Thanks for the reply Karen andI agree with your comments:)

                  SS76 – your welcome 🙂

                  Chris

                  • Anonymous
                    December 6, 2012

                    Hi Chris do you know how we can see the chart for next year on here?

                    Thx,
                    SBW

                    • crisstoff
                      December 6, 2012

                      Easy – just click on the % button for the year you want. Note that this will have the current (2012) in Black overlay, which Blue being the historical year. For example this has the 1967-1968 year http://www.mrci.com/special/dspi68.php

                      Hope that is clear 🙂

                      Chris

            • crisstoff
              December 3, 2012

              Karen, Do you have a website?

              As an aside I thought this site may be of interest to some. It shows the corelation to past years to the current – note 1967 http://www.mrci.com/special/index.php Click on the %3 to get the corresponding chart.

              Chris

            • Anonymous
              December 4, 2012

              Hi Karen, have you also been told to hold off on providing more info till subscription?

              • Anthony
                December 4, 2012

                SBW – please, this is ridiculous. No reader has ever been asked to stop posting info. Let’s be adult about this.

              • karen1650
                December 4, 2012

                SBW/Anon…I have not been told anything…besides why would it be beneficial to me to hold off on posting info? I don’t get anything out of it either way…

  71. investbb
    December 3, 2012

    Hi Guys

    New improved time stamped comments. <–question on what does that mean?

    Thanks!

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      There has been an issue with providing time stamps on the comments. I looked into it once and it wasn’t an easy solution. I think Anthony has fixed it for the paid site.

      • Anthony
        December 4, 2012

        Yes these are now resolved so we know when the comment was posted.

  72. Stockboom
    December 3, 2012

    Anthony, ZZ, Platy,

    This is great that you are moving to subscription base, and let me assure that I will be one of your subscriber! having said that let me bring up few points that may help you in attracting more people.

    Currently what is happening is many times all three of you have different views and projection ( not saying huge difference but for short term, i.e. dates etc.)

    your style of writing or expressing your ideas are different and could be confusion for new investors or junior player.

    Bottom line, I hope with this new service we will receive one voice from all three of you ( so people do not get confuse on whom to follow! LOL) and second we will receive very easy to understand language.

    One more important thing that you could add to your members and trust me this could be blockbuster!

    that you also provide specific symbol analysis on requests, I understand you can end of getting thousands of symbol request but you can limit them saying Canadian and USA ETFs for Oil, Gold, Silver, NG, S&P, DOW, Finance etc. but that will provide amazing customization what average investors looking for without getting stuck with symbols he has to follow from the site he has subscribed!

    Just thoughts, like I said I am in any case!

    Cheers and Hope this works out for everyone!…Hurreeeyyyyyyyy

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      Thank you for your nice thoughts and also for the great suggestions!

  73. Beetlejuice
    December 3, 2012

    Hahaaa, December 21st…The Mayans did know something afterall 🙂

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      :O

  74. Peggy Mateer
    December 3, 2012

    as I suspected, the transits at higher prices are pulling the markets upwards…
    planetary prices for today:
    1407
    1416.5
    1419*
    1423*
    1426**
    1429**

    • Michael
      December 3, 2012

      Hi Peggy, what do you think of the sun/jupiter opposition ? Wasnt that supposed to pull market down ?

      • Peggy Mateer
        December 3, 2012

        I didn’t speak about that. Characterizing what the transit will do is not part of my analysis. I establish prices based on transits. It is one of the reasons why the market is having a hard time breaking through 1419-1423.

  75. SS76
    December 3, 2012

    Anthony, still expecting a low today? You previously mentioned that its based on closing prices but today doesn’t look weak, so not thinking we are getting it today.

  76. ratandrea
    December 3, 2012

    Would y’all consider offering a longer length of service at an ever cheaper price? This may help out those who find it more difficult coming up with $40-50/mo. Perhaps if you extended the time period out, it may cut costs down to $20/mo? I’ve enjoyed this site and will probably come along. I’d really like to see Karen and Peggy come along and was glad to see Rotrot on board. Ganmann has been great too. Gosh, the list seems to get longer. LOL. That’s how many wonderful people contribute to this space. Blessings.

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Hi ratandrea

      Peggy, Karen, Rotrot and Gannman have all expressed their interest personally and will be coming along for the ride. Which is great news for us all.

  77. john
    December 3, 2012

    Thanks for everything. I read the posts everyday but am a very small player.

  78. SS76
    December 3, 2012

    Anthony, would subscription benefit of real time trades also be transmitted via email instantly so that users wouldn’t have to wait until logging into the site?

    Also, a biggie for me, you often trade when the American markets are closed given you are in Australia and obviously that has less benefits for me. Do you plan on posting trade levels that can be executed during the American market hours or is that just not feasible for you. Thanks.

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Hi SS76, i will speak to the developers to see if we can add this functionality.

      I actually trade the American markets and i do not touch the Australian market, as im a swing trader i put my positions on then goto sleep. My stops are mostly always very tight so i know where my downside is. All of my S&P500 charting is done using the SPY which can be used as a proxy, so pull up a chart of the Dow, Russell, Emini, something that is highly correlated and on the other side have the SPY chart. The other advantage is that there is always someone online to answer questions, from east to west we have the time zones covered 🙂

    • SS76
      December 3, 2012

      Thanks Anthony. I think what I’m referring to is that you sometimes stop our or sell pre market, I can’t do that and this is what I’m referring to…

  79. rotrot
    December 3, 2012

    Have been involved with market related messages boards since 1999…through the years I have met some interesting and talented individuals…in particular, my friends JR and OM.

    Anthony, ZigZag and Platy, the three of you are obviously talented and knowledgeable…more importantly, you are kind and caring…your warmth radiates through your posts…thanks for everything you do…looking forward to your new endeavor…all the best!

    rotrot

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Glad youre with us Rotrot, bring that trend following system with ya too 😉

      • ZigZag
        December 3, 2012

        I second that 🙂

  80. Michael
    December 3, 2012

    Anthony,ZZ and ZZ,

    I think it’s only normal that you get compensated for all the work you put into your analysis as I can imagine alot goes into it, not to mention your patience in answering all the questions that keep coming your way (again and again)

    Goodluck with the new venture, I really wish you guys the best, you deserve it ,i think i’ll stick around 🙂

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Thanks Michael would be good if you stuck around, you can tell me whats happening back in Blighty.

  81. gannman
    December 3, 2012

    Here’s dec cit as per santa ……………12/3…..12/12…12/17…..12/25……use stops HO..HO..HO……..

    • SS76
      December 3, 2012

      GM, today high? Dec 12 low (price targets?) then 17th high with 25th low?

      • gannman
        December 3, 2012

        ditto …no price levels ………….i change with the trend …..spy pivot 142.08 upside 1.272…142.63 …1.618 …142.89…..cheers

  82. ricksbiz
    December 3, 2012

    All the best to you all in C I T and thanks for making this web site as I have learned and met some fantastic people who have common interests and being respectful to beginners as we all have to start some where. Will be in touch when I start trading at your level. Thanks from Rick

  83. G
    December 3, 2012

    Hey Anythony, ZZ and Platy – You guys do such a good job. I am a very small investor trying to make my small bucks. Is it possible to make it cheaper for us guys. I would not be able to afford $50 a month.

    • Anthony
      December 3, 2012

      Hi G,

      Thanks for the feedback.

      We spent probably 3 months researching the market. We found that many sites were much more expensive and less accurate than our own. We also took into account the fact that we also had some institutional interest in our techniques as well as having access to 3 analysts and 3 different techniques for the price of 1. So in this respect we felt that the current price is actually great value for $, but then we would say that anyway :). We felt caught between a rock and a hard place because offer the service too cheaply and people will feel it doesn’t hold much value. If we offer it at a higher price we also cut out the less experienced investor, which is why we will make some posts free. We really ummed and ahhed and in the end we felt that the current options are the way forward, a 3 month sub is $40 p/m.

    • platypusfoot
      December 3, 2012

      Hi G, we have really struggled with this because we want to help the small investors, but also it is a lot of work to do what we do, and the proceeds are split 3 ways. Anthony and I have both considered ending our public blogs altogether because of the amount of effort. So what we finally decided is to find a balance, where we each get a small bonus for our work but also we continue to provide part of our work for free, especially when something important is happening. I hope that if you do not sign up with us you will still check in with us occasionally because that is an important part of what we strive to do.

      • Anthony
        December 3, 2012

        Great points Platy, it was a hard decision and you are right there are still some really tough times ahead which should be made public.

        Personally for me a small bonus per month will probably give me even more impetus to start posting even better info that i do not currently post.

  84. Anthony
    December 3, 2012

    No worries Michael, we understand it wont be for everyone, best of luck with your endeavours.

  85. SS76
    December 3, 2012

    Best of luck. Unfortunately I can’t afford this but have appreciated your valuable insight while I’ve been here. Wishing you all the best. I guess hoping that this place would remain free was unrealistic. Hope it works out for you. ZZ, special shout out to you, you are a kind and good person. Platy and Anthony, thanks for your help also. Hopefully I’ve learned enough to continue on my own.

    • ZigZag
      December 3, 2012

      That means a lot to me, SS76. Thank you!

      • Witold (@delubicz)
        December 3, 2012

        Hi ZigZag,
        today the discussion is only about $ 50,I would like to ask you if on Dec 6 th still could be the high,or the low (inversion of your CIT from correlation chart)
        best Witold

        • Michael
          December 3, 2012

          hahaha, i like your post Witold 🙂

        • ZigZag
          December 3, 2012

          Hi Witold 🙂

          Dec 6th should be the next peak/pause before going higher into early January. There’s a small chance it ends up being a low, but only if price is falling hard into the 6th. I’m basically fishing (waiting) for this to come down a bit more so I can buy more after the 6th..

          • aiihotline
            December 3, 2012

            Agree with ZZ as SPX is forming a rising wedge from 1343 low, today might be the low as it touches the support of the wedge at the market close. Another rip up to 12/6 around 1420-1440 area is possible but I’ve reduced my long exposures this morning. Waiting until 12/6 to go heavy long or small short. Thanks ZZ for the update.

            • Anthony
              December 3, 2012

              Smart planning aiihotline. Today i expected a low therefore i think we rip up into the 05/06.

              • aiihotline
                December 3, 2012

                Line up pretty perfectly. Lets see how it unfolds. Thanks Anthony.

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