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S&P: 12/9 Ceres 36° Cycle

We saw here that heliocentric Ceres caused gold to top on 11/27 and silver to top 2 days later as Ceres reached gold’s 72° and silver’s 36° harmonic, respectively.

On December 9, a similar configuration will occur for the S&P, as geocentric Ceres crosses the S&P’s 36° harmonic. This should cause a significant reversal.

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12/9/2012: S&P Geocentric Ceres 36° Harmonic

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56 comments on “S&P: 12/9 Ceres 36° Cycle

  1. beetlejuice
    December 7, 2012

    Personally i would be wary of risk assets(commodities) here.

    USD since the Sept low is making higher highs and higher lows. AUD looks exhausted and is IMO in danger of a strong down move. That would indicate lower commodities and S&P500

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$USD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p65882116772

    • platypusfoot
      December 7, 2012

      Hi Beetlejuice, I see what you’re saying but pull your chart back a couple years… there is a head & shoulders forming.

      • beetlejuice
        December 7, 2012

        Hi Platy it depends on how you look at it. There coukd also be a very large bottom head and shoulders with the left shoulder at November 10 the head at May 11 and currentlt forming an elongated compkex right shoulder

        http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$USD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p55088604725

        • platypusfoot
          December 7, 2012

          LOL yeah the dollar likes to be ambiguous that way :p

          The loss of the petrodollar is what’s going to kill us.

    • beetlejuice
      December 7, 2012

      I have no idea what is keeping this afloat but it looks exhausted to me and a decent break lower could see it test the 97.5 USc level and the lower boundary of the large triangle on he weekly.

      Reversals in the wind???

      http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$XAD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p59713552797

  2. platypusfoot
    December 6, 2012

    I went long oil earlier today. I think we have a nice low-risk set-up because it’s at the bottom of an up-sloping channel, and back-testing a down-sloping channel it just broke out of.

    • HM2535
      December 7, 2012

      Hi Platy, what index do you use for oil? Thanks HM

      • platypusfoot
        December 7, 2012

        I usually use /qm which is mini-futures. That way I can scale in and out.

        • HM2535
          December 7, 2012

          Thanks 🙂

  3. Anthony
    December 6, 2012

    Short 1414. Stop 1418

    • SS76
      December 6, 2012

      huh? The high today is 1413.75?

    • Witold (@delubicz)
      December 6, 2012

      Hi,it’s your intention? I didn’t see such price yet
      best Witold

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      Don’t forget that Anthony uses some Australian proxy to the S&P so the numbers don’t match exactly.

      • Witold (@delubicz)
        December 6, 2012

        Ok,you are right,because I’m trading only with futures contracts on every market

      • SS76
        December 6, 2012

        ah ok. Perhaps with an Aussie accent, it gets there. Pretty impressive to nail the exact high of the day.

    • SS76
      December 6, 2012

      Reshorting here, 1413.

  4. Anonymous
    December 6, 2012

    Hi Platy and ZZ, just wondering 🙂 if you can add what your thoughts are of the market (longterm/shorterm) sort of like how Anthony has done on the trades/positions page for today….just a suggestion:)

    thx, SBW

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      Hi SBW, my long term view into 2013 is bullish.

      • Anonymous
        December 6, 2012

        Thx Platy

        SBW

    • ZigZag
      December 7, 2012

      Hi SBW,

      I’m still thinking early January peak. New highs eventually next year..Could even see new all time highs..

      • Anonymous
        December 7, 2012

        thx ZZ

        SBW

      • steventrees
        December 7, 2012

        ZZ: Do you agree with there will be a big drop after January peak?

        • ZigZag
          December 7, 2012

          Hi Steve,

          Yes, I do think it will drop after early January..I don’t know how big the price move will be. I am planning on Santa to do his magic again this year 🙂

          • Chung Wang
            December 7, 2012

            ZZ: still think we will go sideway to down from now on to 12/14-15?
            1420 looks like a real strong resistance.

            • ZigZag
              December 7, 2012

              Hi Chung,

              Yes, I think a pullback to 12/14-15 would be a good spot to start loading up for Santa.

              The INDU correlation low is the 19th, but the SPX correlation is a better indicator and that one is supposed to hit around the 15th.

              • 1inbluemoon
                December 7, 2012

                Zig,

                How do you find these correlations in the past history? Is it manual going through the years of data and looking for parts that fit current action?
                thank you.

                • ZigZag
                  December 7, 2012

                  Hi 1inbluemoon,

                  I look at high and lows that are of equal distance on a 100 year chart. Then I look for the count in the middle to try and locate the possible pricing pattern that correlates with where we are today. It can be hard to locate exact days but usually it finds which way the trend is going.

                  Does that make sense? I have no doubt that I would suck at being a teacher 😉

            • Chung Wang
              December 7, 2012

              E.W.-wise, from 11/15 low to possible January high, wave structure will be an ABC bounce up. I think we are seeing b of B today. c of B likely on 12/14-15 at around 1380. Then C wave up will bring us into early January top.

  5. Mia
    December 6, 2012

    As always: Many thanks Platy. Wonder what natal-date points to this Ceres aspect? Regards. Mia

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      You’re welcome Mia 🙂
      Please see this post. http://planetforecaster.blogspot.com/2011/11/s-500-natal-chart.html

      • Mia
        December 6, 2012

        Thanks for the hint.
        Transit to Natal Ceres (03/04/1957) –> Ceres 036 = 04/24/2012 18:21 [geo]
        Transit to Natal Ceres (03/04/1957) –> Ceres 036 = 11/15/2012 02:01 [helio]

        • platypusfoot
          December 6, 2012

          Hey that’s interesting!

          • Anonymous
            December 7, 2012

            In other words: I cannot make sense from your calc to the 12/9 date (though I agree Dec 9 is a CIT in the S&P):
            With SE_Aspectarian I calculate geocentric Ceres 36° Transit to Natal Ceres (of 03/04/1957) and I get 04/24/2012. Heliocentric Ceres 36° Transit to Natal Ceres (03/04/1957) is 11/15/2012, the recent major low in stocks.

            • platypusfoot
              December 7, 2012

              I use the natal chart only to set the fixed harmonics for S&P (the pentagram). Then I watch for planets to cross the harmonic points. So this prediction has nothing to do with Ceres’ natal position.

          • stij
            December 7, 2012

            Platy, I tried to find ceres-longitudes, but …? Do you have a link where i ca find it (goe en helio).

            sjoerd

            • platypusfoot
              December 7, 2012

              Longitude is calculated counter-clockwise from 0°Aries.

  6. SS76
    December 6, 2012

    Keeping in mind that 12/9 is a Sunday, your short opportunity is likely tomorrow then……I stopped out so looking to reload. I think I will do so before the end of the day and hold it till the 11th, reload after the FOMC meeting to hold until the 17th.

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      Tomorrow or Monday would be my expectation.

  7. G
    December 6, 2012

    Platy – tomorrow (12/7/) is also Mars 36 harmonic right?

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      I have 12/5 as Mars 36. It was a low.

  8. nltaur
    December 6, 2012

    many times we see a high at the new moon , so combined with this aspect we could be looking voor a high ??

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      New Moon is on the 13th. This aspect should be stronger than a New Moon.

  9. SS76
    December 6, 2012

    Interesting Platy. I thought I had read that Ceres is not as important as Mars in the other thread, but I could be mistaken.

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      The further out the planet is, the more important it is.

      • SS76
        December 6, 2012

        ok, thank you!

  10. G
    December 6, 2012

    PLaty – as always can you please post a historical chart too.

    Thanks,

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      If I get time I will do that.

  11. Rezito
    December 6, 2012

    Hi Platy

    SPX is slightly down from Nov 30th off the high of 1423. Why do you think it will be a drop?

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      Because Ceres is pretty significant (more important than Mars for example) so we should be looking at the longer term trend. It’s no guarantee, but these are the odds.

      • Anonymous
        December 6, 2012

        Hi Platy, do you still see more downside coming for the miners? wondering if I should reposition my self.

        Thx,
        SBW

        • platypusfoot
          December 6, 2012

          I am seeing signs that the bottom is in. Today’s low should be a good stop.

          • Anonymous
            December 6, 2012

            Great thx Platy…I didn’t put any stops in place for NUGT as I found I kept stopping out…only thing I’m concerned about is Anthony’s bearish outlook on the miner’s as posted yesterday.

            Thanks again,

            SBW

            • platypusfoot
              December 6, 2012

              Yeah, I’m concerned about that too!

  12. John
    December 6, 2012

    This reversal, you mean a fall on S&P?

    • platypusfoot
      December 6, 2012

      Hi John, it is looking to be a top, yes.

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